Comments on: What’s the Meaning of the Flag of St. George? http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/ John Bracken's thoughts on the media & technology Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:37:24 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: 14/88 http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-48012 14/88 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:49:44 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-48012 England for englishmen. English jobs for englishmen, need I say more? England for englishmen. English jobs for englishmen, need I say more?

]]> By: Jro http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-47894 Jro Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:04:33 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-47894 I agree with Barry's second comment here. Maria is just regurgitating what is seen to be the right thing to say. To be PC. There is no thought or logic gone into that comment. Right or wrong, the spike of immigration into the UK has robbed us of our ancestry identity. What it meant to be English or British 50 years ago, means a different thing nowadays. And as much as I disagree with most BNP comments, they speak at least some sense. Are all muslim's extremists willing to murder at a moments notice? No. But if there were no muslim's in the UK, would we have had the 7/7 bombings? No. So you have to weigh up the options. We could keep them and be politically correct, but face bombs going off every once in a while. Or we could get rid of them, and be safer. I'm not championing which is right or which is wrong. But how many bombs going off, how many dead, until being PC isn't the priority? I agree with Barry’s second comment here. Maria is just regurgitating what is seen to be the right thing to say. To be PC. There is no thought or logic gone into that comment. Right or wrong, the spike of immigration into the UK has robbed us of our ancestry identity. What it meant to be English or British 50 years ago, means a different thing nowadays. And as much as I disagree with most BNP comments, they speak at least some sense. Are all muslim’s extremists willing to murder at a moments notice? No. But if there were no muslim’s in the UK, would we have had the 7/7 bombings? No. So you have to weigh up the options. We could keep them and be politically correct, but face bombs going off every once in a while. Or we could get rid of them, and be safer. I’m not championing which is right or which is wrong. But how many bombs going off, how many dead, until being PC isn’t the priority?

]]> By: Torstig Anderssen http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-47300 Torstig Anderssen Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:07:53 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-47300 Well, i'm related to the Norse people on Orkney and want to know when the scots are going go give back my isles AND oil!!! The scots love to whine about the English' but they never even want to mention what they did in the Orkneys! I wonder why? What scottish hypocrites!!! FREE THE ORKNEYS NOW!!! Well, i’m related to the Norse people on Orkney and want to know when the scots are going go give back my isles AND oil!!!
The scots love to whine about the English’ but they never even want to mention what they did in the Orkneys! I wonder why?
What scottish hypocrites!!!
FREE THE ORKNEYS NOW!!!

]]> By: Barry http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-25086 Barry Fri, 11 May 2007 23:45:53 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-25086 Maria, neither England nor Britain will exist in any meaningful sense if immigration is allowed to continue at its present totally uncontrolled pace. If you were a true patriot, you would concerned about this subject but like many people who claim to be you aren't for the sake of appearing to be PC. Maria, neither England nor Britain will exist in any meaningful sense if immigration is allowed to continue at its present totally uncontrolled pace. If you were a true patriot, you would concerned about this subject but like many people who claim to be you aren’t for the sake of appearing to be PC.

]]> By: bracken http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-17470 bracken Sat, 20 Jan 2007 18:28:48 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-17470 Maria, thanks for the background on the other commenter . hmm, I'm not sure I see what's bizarre or bigoted about rooting for T&T-- in Manhattan in June red and black T&T shirts were more common than England jerseys. Further, it seems that American culture could be said to have some Scottish elements, no? As to football hooliganism, it seems the English have experienced their fair share. Maria, thanks for the background on the other commenter
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hmm, I’m not sure I see what’s bizarre or bigoted about rooting for T&T– in Manhattan in June red and black T&T shirts were more common than England jerseys. Further, it seems that American culture could be said to have some Scottish elements, no? As to football hooliganism, it seems the English have experienced their fair share.

]]> By: Maria http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-14310 Maria Fri, 29 Dec 2006 22:24:46 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-14310 Barry is known under a number of names around the Net (he has recently been cussing and blinding on the Campaign for an English Parliament news blog) and is pretty famous for making worrying comments about England, immigrants to Britain and his desire for the continuation of discrimination against the people of England by the UK Government. He claims Welsh ancestry, but his rants must not be seen as typical of the people of modern day Britain. What a bizarre comment about cheering on Trinidad and Tobago, Media SITREP. After the attacks by Scots racists on football fans wearing England shirts in the summer (one a seven year old boy), I feel that we don't really need Americans, whose culture is based so much on that of England's, joining the anti-English chorus and fuelling Scots bigotry. Time to call a halt to smug misguided, bigoted jibes all round. Grow up, eh? Barry is known under a number of names around the Net (he has recently been cussing and blinding on the Campaign for an English Parliament news blog) and is pretty famous for making worrying comments about England, immigrants to Britain and his desire for the continuation of discrimination against the people of England by the UK Government. He claims Welsh ancestry, but his rants must not be seen as typical of the people of modern day Britain.

What a bizarre comment about cheering on Trinidad and Tobago, Media SITREP. After the attacks by Scots racists on football fans wearing England shirts in the summer (one a seven year old boy), I feel that we don’t really need Americans, whose culture is based so much on that of England’s, joining the anti-English chorus and fuelling Scots bigotry. Time to call a halt to smug misguided, bigoted jibes all round. Grow up, eh?

]]> By: Barry http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-14307 Barry Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:26:03 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-14307 At least the BNP are true patriots and don't want either England or any other part of the United Kingdom submerged and totally destroyed by masses of third world and other immigrants unlike the civic 'nationalist' nutters of the Englidh Democrats and the CEP who are more interested in anti-Scottish and anti-Welsh bigotry rather than England's true interests. If the COSG or the Union Flag belongs to everyone regardless of their ancestry then neither flag has any real meaning. Nationality has quite a lot to do with race though not totally. At least the BNP are true patriots and don’t want either England or any other part of the United Kingdom submerged and totally destroyed by masses of third world and other immigrants unlike the civic ‘nationalist’ nutters of the Englidh Democrats and the CEP who are more interested in anti-Scottish and anti-Welsh bigotry rather than England’s true interests.

If the COSG or the Union Flag belongs to everyone regardless of their ancestry then neither flag has any real meaning. Nationality has quite a lot to do with race though not totally.

]]> By: Chris Abbott http://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-642 Chris Abbott Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:04:04 +0000 https://bracken.wordpress.com/2006/06/05/whats-the-meaning-of-the-flag-of-st-george/#comment-642 Actually, the St George's flag was never a symbol of white supremacy. Before the 1990s, you would be hard pressed to buy one here because England had almost totally submerged itself in the Union. The "British" Union flag was "our" flag - and it flew for all occasions, from the pomp and ceremony of state occasions, to the celebration of England winning the World Cup in 1966 to racist groups in Doc Martens, smashing up dance halls. The Cross of St George returned to England after about a three hundred year absence in the 1990s as a football emblem. In these times of unequal devolution, it is being seen more and more as a symbol for a modern day England, struggling to re-emerge (against UK Government opposition) from the shadows of the Union. Whilst many of the British "Chattering Classes" would like the St George's flag buried and are responsible for tarnishing its name, a look back at historical fact does not substantiate their claim that it was ever misused. These days, the odious British National Party uses the Welsh Dragon, Scottish Saltire, English Cross of St George and the British Union flag at its rallies. This reflects devolution in the UK, but does not alter the fact that the BNP is a Unionist organisation. Fortunately, the ordinary people of Britain, be they Scottish, English or Welsh, have ensured that the BNP will not hijack their national flags. The flags belong to the people, regardless of race, colour or creed. Actually, the St George’s flag was never a symbol of white supremacy. Before the 1990s, you would be hard pressed to buy one here because England had almost totally submerged itself in the Union. The “British” Union flag was “our” flag – and it flew for all occasions, from the pomp and ceremony of state occasions, to the celebration of England winning the World Cup in 1966 to racist groups in Doc Martens, smashing up dance halls.

The Cross of St George returned to England after about a three hundred year absence in the 1990s as a football emblem. In these times of unequal devolution, it is being seen more and more as a symbol for a modern day England, struggling to re-emerge (against UK Government opposition) from the shadows of the Union.

Whilst many of the British “Chattering Classes” would like the St George’s flag buried and are responsible for tarnishing its name, a look back at historical fact does not substantiate their claim that it was ever misused.

These days, the odious British National Party uses the Welsh Dragon, Scottish Saltire, English Cross of St George and the British Union flag at its rallies. This reflects devolution in the UK, but does not alter the fact that the BNP is a Unionist organisation. Fortunately, the ordinary people of Britain, be they Scottish, English or Welsh, have ensured that the BNP will not hijack their national flags.

The flags belong to the people, regardless of race, colour or creed.

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